ok the story i get from my jw relatives is that borg "isn't making money off them", but that never sat well with me.
i've always wondered how much money she contributed to the borg.. since i don't have the nerve to ask them, and they probably won't tell me the "truth" if i do, i'm asking you folks.. how much money does the average jw contribute to the cause?
how much do those silly magazines cost anyway?
But the real "cost of being a JW" is not monetary, it costs you your time. It costs you your life your soul, your dedication , devotion to the cause above even devotion to your family or preservation of your own life. All in return for broken promises and false hopes.
Exactly.
a sister i know went out with the c.o.
's wife in service recently.
sister c.o.
I wonder how they are going to find enough CO's
Unfortunately there is always some jerk willing to take the job. Lots of power and you get paid, so no more window cleaning for that pioneer.
i would like to state firstly that i in no way intend to offend anyone.. its just when i was in the org i had major problems with the blood issue/death because of persecution.
many times we were taught that god does`nt ask us to do anything that he has`nt done himself.
now imagine everything the bible says about jesus really did happen.
I've poured over the scriptures wherein Jesus is quoted and have never found anything in his comments that referred to his death as a sacrifice
What this poster wrote was where 'Jesus is quoted'. All the references above from Hebrews etc. were NOT quotes from Jesus actually.
i would like to state firstly that i in no way intend to offend anyone.. its just when i was in the org i had major problems with the blood issue/death because of persecution.
many times we were taught that god does`nt ask us to do anything that he has`nt done himself.
now imagine everything the bible says about jesus really did happen.
not only was he going to come right back to life again, but why in the world was this necessary in the first place?
Another thing, if we are all imperfect because of the sin of Adam, and our world is so screwed up because of it, and so Jesus came and sacrificed his life to pay back the ransom, wasn't the 'debt' paid 2000 YEARS AGO??
So what are we waiting for?
And all the suffering of the last 2000 YEARS has been unnecessary, without a reason?
And I don't buy the usual JW excuse that a thousand years is as one day to God - as the creator, he knows our time, and Jesus certainly does if He needs reminding.
Where is the justice? I don't see it.
i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .
why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?
how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?
They may accept it,
Forget it, they will not accept this method and your letter will not pursuade them to do anything else that DA or DF you.
I have seen this total crap posted a few times. IT DOES NOT WORK
Prove me wrong, has ANYONE ever managed it? (Telling others, so they are not sure whether to ignore you or not, dosn't count as an official annulment)
If the WT catch on, and I know they read boards like this, there will soon be a comment about it in the literature, or an elders letter saying it is not possible, just to make it clear to the confused.
i just saw this on prison planet, i was wondering what the effects on our anonymity might be if other states decide to follow suit?
what to ya'll think?.
nj bill will go after internet message boards - can no longer post as "anonymous" .
For those who don't know - US law only applies in the US (Someone tell that to Bush)
If there were any security issues, the owner of this forum could relocate easily.
running man has posted his account of an eight day assembly from the 1960s.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/109297/1.ashx.
what i would like to know is, what was the purpose in having eight days for the assembly?.
I can't imagine how hard it would be to fill 8 days worth of material without being accused of falling into a cultic tactic of mindless rote and ritual.
The modern day conventions are very different from the older ones. The week long events had many dramas, lots of new books and booklets, even convention booklets. The sessions were very long but there was a feeling of anticipation because talks often included new thoughts giving something to talk about.
Now they are total crap. Friday a.m. - how to stay awake, take notes. Friday p.m. pioneers telling you how good they are blah blah. Saturday - new release and baptism. Sunday, elongated normal sunday meeting.
Nothing new, nothing interesting. The material is so stretched out you could reduce the whole thing to 2 or 3 hours. Glad I don't go anymore. You need to be brain dead to stay awake.
this may be a question for ex-elders.
is it always the case that a talk will be given after a d/f or reproof relating to the persons 'sin'?
after these announcements in our hall we always seemed to have a talk/local needs, which practically told you what the person had done.
Yes it is policy. But one thing that changed in recent years was to delay the talk a couple of months rather than straight after. But the congregation always knew everything by then from the elders wives!!
after i da'd myself i went out and bought the music i had been told to destroy in the past - queen, elo and the eagles.
how about you, and what did you get?
After I DA'd myself I went out and bought the music I had been told to destroy in the past - Queen, ELO and the Eagles. How about you, and what did you get?
well, i thought i was doing better but i guess i was wrong!.
last night i found out that a sister i loved dearly passed away.
she died of cancer.
a JW funeral is not about paying respect to the departed one. It is used as an opportunity to preach. Choose a quiet moment to reflect on their lives. Sorry to hear about your loss.
